# Unable to understand the 'total_relation' question

Hi there!

I am currently solving the following question in the IndProp chapter in Logical Foundations:

``````Define an inductive binary relation total_relation that holds between every pair of natural numbers.
Inductive total_relation : nat → nat → Prop :=
(* FILL IN HERE *)
.
``````

I don’t understand what we have to do. Do we have to define a specific total relation? And so, there would be multiple answers to this, won’t there?

I’d really appreciate any insight. Thanks!

How would two total relations be different?

What I was thinking was that ‘total relations’ are those that hold between every pair of natural numbers. So, if we have `n m : nat`, then one way I could define `total_relation` would be that either `n=m or n<m or n>m`. I don’t know if I am grasping the concept correctly, and how I would define what I am talking about.

If “total” means “true for any pair of arguments” then `<`, “=” and ‘<’ have easy counter-examples: (1,0), (1,0) and (0,1). Try again

Sorry, I couldn’t get you. What I was thinking was if we have for example (0,1), then we have that 0<1. So, for any (n,m), either n<m, n=m, or n>m.

I think I am misunderstanding what is meant by total relations.

@EmilyPriyadarshini You’re right, that is a valid definition of a total relation. `total_relation := fun n m => n < m \/ n = m \/ n > m`.

There are multiple valid solutions to that exercise, but they are all logically equivalent: `forall n m. total_relation_1 n m <-> total_relation_2 n m` would be a theorem.

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@Lyxia Thank you so much for your reply! It’s much clearer to me now!